However, Rashi in Zevachim says that the amount of taking a מנה
and splitting it into two to burn it is only Rabbinic. Asks the Mishne Lemelech (Timidim 3:2)
if so, why is one obligated only for coping a מנה of קטורת, one should be obligated for a כזית? The Briskor Rav (Menachos 49a) cites his
brother, the גר"מ,
that one fulfills the obligation of offering the ketores with an olive’s
worth, but it is only defined as a korban, it only has a שם קרבן if it is a מנה.
The Briskor Rav (Kli Mikdash) points out that the
Rambam says the mitzvah of offering ketores is incumbent upon the
kohanaim as opposed to korbanot which are an obligation on Klal
Yisroel. He explains that in regard
to korbanot the mitzvah is the attonement achieved as by the
nation as opposed to ketores the mitzvah is merely to do an act
of burning, which is performed by the kohanim. In line with this reasoning he cites Rav
Chaim said there is no pesul is the ketores was burnt without
having in mind for the sake of the tzibbur because the act of burning
the ketores was done. This is
quite interesting for the Rachash Lavuv #47 cites from the Beis Halevi
that if the ketores is offered not for the sake of the owner it is
indeed posul. Even though we don’t
have a derasha to say it should be pasul, since one may not voluntarily
offer a ketores offering, a korban not being offered for the owner
defacto becomes a voluntary offering and in the case of ketores that
makes it pasul. It would seem to
be a contradiction within the Brisker dynasty as to how we should view a ketores
that was offered not for the sake of the owner.
See update on that here.
See update on that here.
Of course, the approach of Rav Chaim and the Rav is classic
Brisk and they explain the vos but not the farvus. Now despite the fact that it may be apekorses
to ask such a question but there are certain instances when I feel the farvus
is quite glaring and apparent. Why
is ketores different than other communal offerings?! Possibly we can explain based upon the Ramban
at the end of last week’s parsha that explains that the ketores has
a power of din, it can cause great harm, yet it can bring great reward as
well. One can offer a korban and achieve
atonement, however the ketores has a power to change din into rachamim. That power is not within a person’s reach. All the person can do is to offer the maaseh
hakravah and the transformation into rachamim will happen by itself as the
offering climbs the heavenly spheres.
that's a little bit misrepresenting the mishna lamelech. He doesn't really ask it as a question rather states that the din of copying is dependent upon the lechatchila din. R' Moshe is just giving tosefes biur why this would be so.
ReplyDeleteDon't feel bad about asking farvus, taama dikra is always valid as long as it is not being used l'dina. See rambam end of me'ilah and mikvaos. I think there is a third place but i don't remember where.
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